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Mandir in Ayodhya only solution, it will pave way for vikas: Yogi Adityanath

Uttar Pradesh CM Yogi Adityanath asserts that in the interest of development, SC should resolve Ram Temple issue at earliest.

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Dec 24, 2018, 07.51 AM IST
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We identified 21 sectors for investment and invited investors through clearly stated policies, Yogi Adityanath said.
Under scrutiny on various fronts, Uttar Pradesh CM Yogi Adityanath tells Pranab Dhal Samanta in an interview that uncovering the ‘root cause’ is more important than anything else in the Bulandshahr probe, asserts that in the interest of development, SC should resolve Ram Temple issue at earliest and bats for farm loan waivers. Excerpts:

How do you view the 3-0 defeat for the BJP in these elections, where you campaigned extensively?
Winning and losing have their significance in a democracy. But there should be no arrogance in victory, nor should there be any despondency in defeat. BJP accepts the results in this perspective, but will do its internal assessments. You must have noticed that for the first time, even though we lost, the Prime Minister and all our leaders congratulated the new chief ministers.

What are the reasons for this defeat?
The BJP government was there for 15 years in Madhya Pradesh, yet the party’s vote share was more than that of the Congress in these elections. BJP got 41 % while Congress got 40.9 % but they got more seats. As for Rajasthan, we did far better than the numbers many pollsters and analysts had projected.

But the defeat in Chhattisgarh did come as a shock. At the same time, let me tell you the Congress resorted to lies and I feel, it will be exposed one by one like the Supreme Court order on the Rafale purchase, which came two days after the results.

Should the BJP have promised farm loan waiver like in Uttar Pradesh?
The farmer was not on the agenda of the SP and BSP governments that ruled Uttar Pradesh for the last 15 years. They didn’t have a procurement policy, no planning to double farmers’ income. It’s only after Modiji came to power in 2014 did UP start making soil health cards. Middlemen and agents dominated the scene. Can you imagine sugarcane farmers did not get their dues between 2012 and 2017? There was no focus, even the UP farmer was committing suicides. It was in these circumstances that a one-time farm loan waiver for UP farmers was conceived, so that they could be linked to the system. And the results of that are visible.

So, loan waivers are good thing?
Remember, we made arrangements for this from within our budget. And for this, we cut excess government expenditure, stopped leakages in schemes and from that we passed on benefit to the farmers. The money went directly into the farmer’s account.

It did not impact your other expenditure?
We never let any of our development schemes suffer. Today, 24 hours electricity is available in every district headquarter, also tehsil headquarter. Rural areas receive at least 18 hours electricity.

In education too, the number of SC/ST students receiving scholarship has gone up from 12 lakhs to 21 lakhs in the first year. Scholarship has also gone up for OBC students and those in general category. I have laid foundation stones of as many medical colleges and polytechnics in the first 18 months than were made in UP since Independence.

We have also made a procurement policy. SP government procured only 5 lakh metric tonne wheat, we bought 37 lakh metric tonnes and gave Rs 10 per quintal bonus to each farmer. This year it’s 53 lakh metric tonnes and Rs 20 per quintal bonus. The procurement for paddy is underway. So, we have focused our effort, removed middlemen, agents and ensured the money goes directly into the accounts of the farmers.

What I am trying to say is that this waiver wasn’t given out at the cost of our development expenditure. But yes, we gave money from our budget. We didn’t go to banks for money because I knew no one will give money for UP.

How much have you spent?
We have spent about Rs 36,000 crore in three phases and I can claim that UP is the first state to have successfully implemented farm loan waiver. And I believe it’s a good thing that today others are talking about doing farm loan waivers. They should do it. And it must be done through their budgets because no bank is going to give you loans for this.

So, BJP should follow the UP model?
My model is there for everyone and my party knows about it.

Don’t you think law and order remains a big concern, especially after what happened in Bulandshahr?
Bulandshahr was an accident. Let me actually clarify, it’s an incident, ek ghatna, behind which there’s a conspiracy. And those involved in that conspiracy have been arrested. Those who can’t find ways to challenge the performance of the UP government, are conspiring to engineer such incidents. We have uncovered this and will soon take some serious steps. As for law order, I cannot claim that it’s a zero crime situation. But I can certainly claim that when compared to the governments of the last 15 years, crime is down to its lowest in the state today.

How do you respond to criticism against you on the Bulandshahr case? Eminent people have asked your resignation.
Just who are these intellectuals, IAS officers? These are those who did not get another job or a second chance. They are a spent force. They are the people who talk about separating Kashmir from India. So, they will always speak against me. For them, people like me become the red rag to the raging bull. Those intellectuals who have earned a living at the cost of trading the country’s interest will surely be provoked by people like me.

But you can’t equate the killing of a police officer with a cow slaughter case?
We have not equated the two. Those responsible for the killing of the police officer are being investigated separately. And those behind cow slaughter are facing due legal action separately. But what’s important for us is that we must get to the root cause of every incident.

And what is the root cause?
The root cause is a conspiracy, which created a clash that led to violence and this incident.

Do we expect sub-categorization of reservation for most backward castes? A panel you had set up has submitted its report.
Look, the report hasn’t come to me yet. It’s gone to the department concerned, which is assessing it for now. We will then have to see. Because if they have given us the 2002 report as it is, then we will have to analyze it. The court has already stayed it (2002 Act). If it has given us different recommendations with fresh relevant data, then we can consider taking it forward. Otherwise it won’t stand in the court.

What’s your own political view?
We will have to see whether the apprehensions that people speak about is right or not. Only the report can tell.

Why did you change the names of Faizabad and Allahabad?
The name of a district or a commissionerate should be what the country and the world identifies it with. Plus, it’s been a widespread and longstanding public demand to change the names. So, I feel this is an effort to connect people with their cultural heritage and their glorious historical past. All institutions in Ayodha and Prayagraj will now reflect this change.

Will more names be changed?
Take note of what has happened for now.

And work has begun on building a massive Ram statue?
Work is on. We are studying the feasibility, including checking the strength of the soil there. We will work on the basis of the reports that come.

What about the temple?
The Ram Mandir issue is in court. It is a symbol of larger public sentiment. And that should be respected at all cost. We have told Supreme Court that in the interest of country’s development, it should resolve this issue as the earliest.

As UP chief minister have you thought of offering an innovative new solution?
What solution? The solution is there before everyone. Public sentiment should be respected.

You mean the temple should be made?
Absolutely, the temple (Ram mandir) should be made there.

How do you respond to the stir you have created on Hanuman’s caste?
It’s good if there are different statements. It shows the wide acceptability of our gods. That they are above religion, caste or creed and everyone is showing respect to them. If more of this happens, then the image of the country we have, will change.

But what was your logic?
My logic was based on Indian tradition. That god is present everywhere, which shows the extent of our cultural heritage. A seed grows into a big tree..that is Indian culture, tradition. But if this seed goes bad or dies, then it shows deterioration. Those who advocate such deterioration must at one level be condemned.

Why do people fear Yogi Adityanath?
There’s no need to be fearful of me. I am involved in the welfare of people and giving them good governance. There’s a big section of people, who were kept out of development post-Independence. They were only handed over empty slogans and false promises. We are trying to include them in our development plans today. In 18 months, 11 lakhs rural homes and 12 lakh homes in urban areas have been built under PM Awas Yojna in UP. In Swachch bharat our coverage was 23%. Today the national average is 96% and UP is at 100%.

Where are you on attracting investment?
In UP, there was a policy of pick and choose – to benefit those individuals you knew. I ended this arbitrariness. We identified 21 sectors for investment and invited investors through clearly stated policies. We have signed MoUs worth Rs 4,75,000 cr of which ground breaking ceremonies of `62,000 cr worth projects has been done. We have created a land bank for the defence corridor, which will make a big impact when the projects come up.

Where big investments and a land bank is not needed, we started one district one product programme. We have linked them with PM mudra yojna and other schemes. Moradabad brass industry, for example, has thanked me for ending gunda tax and bringing assured electricity. They told me that they have Rs 6,000 cr worth export order today.

IKEA will purchase locally..

We are connecting Ikea to Bareilly, Saharanpur, Moradabad…So, Ikea will basically source material from here. It will sell here and outside.

How many seats will you get in UP in 2019?
We will get 75 plus seats.

But your like Om Prakash Rajbhar have been critical, especially after Bulandshahr?
If utensils are kept together, they will make some noise. That’s expected. But in the end, they will stay with the BJP.

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